, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, is it fair to compare the two tape you the president's tape the conservatives were talking about since last night and the video of congressman ryan saying you 30% of people want to live their lives on welfare is it fair to compare these tapes, especially given the president's tape, then-senator obama, was covered by the media then? >> it a beautiful day in denver today, tamron. first of all. >> nice weather report, eugene. >> obama says nothing new on the tape and it was covered years aleen sirgany but fair it is all fair in politics. if it's on tape, you can put it out. the way it was put out by the daily caller, it was -- i guess you had very to say it was racist in its intent. i mean, clearly, it's supposed to rile up some sort of racial animus against president obama, but he doesn't really say anything in the tape that's all that con throw ver eggs. so i don't know whether it takes the romney/ryan partisans to harp on that.